DE HAVILLAND VAMPIRE VZ874
A 'VZ' in rocks denotes the location the aircraft impacted the mountain |
Flying by instruments alone and only ten minutes after taking off the aircraft crashed into the West of the summit of Mynydd Mawr in Snowdonia. Unfortunately Sub-Lt Davies was killed in the crash.
The aircraft is said to have exploded on impact many parts of the aircraft continued across the summit and fell into the the cwm below on the East face of the summit.
The alleged impact point is now marked by the aircraft's letters in the scree a V and a Z .We found nothing here now...but possibly didnt look hard enough because photographs of small fragments can be seen on the internet.
On descending into Cwm Planwydd we had more success finding engine parts and aircraft spars.
The Aircraft a D.H. 100 F.B.Mk 5 was built at Broughton as a batch order of 63 machines.
A spar and some engine parts in the Cwm |
De Havilland Mosquito MkII W4088
Undercarriage |
Flying out of RAF Cranfield on a night navigation exercise the crew became misplaced and crashed into the hillside at a col below the summit. The aircraft broke up and was scattered over a wide area, the bulk of it coming to rest and burning out.
This location can still be seen. a liberal scattering of brass screws from the wooden aircrafts structure and molten alloy from the engines cover the site.
Further down the hill a substantial section of undercarriage remains still with timber extant attached.
Other smaller pieces of wreckage can be found with a careful search of the area.
Unfortunately both crewmen were killed in the crash. They were
Captain J. De Thuisy
and
Pilot Officer J. Marchal
Location where the aircraft burnt out |
Avro Lancaster NE132
Wreckage lays amongst the scree in the foreground |
Reduction gear still with stubs of the props attached |
The aircraft apparently entered a Cumulo-Nimbus cloud and it is suspected that ice formed upon the fuselage and wings causing a catastrophic airframe failure . The aircraft broke up in flight plummeting down into the mountainside .
Fatigue may have played its part for the aircraft had completed many missions over enemy territory before being 'retired' into No. 1653 HCU for use in training .
Engine parts |
The whole crew died :
F/O David H.R.Evans Pilot
F/O Maxwell W. Moon Navigator
Sgt. Charles W. Souden Bomb Aimer
Sgt. George E.W. Hodge Flt. Engineer
Sgt. Arthur D. Gash Air Gunner
Sgt. Harold Neilsen Air Gunner
Sgt. Alfred E. Oliff Air Gunner/Wireless Op
F/O;s Evans and Moon were Australian and members of the RAAF.
Sgt Neilsen was from Chile .
It is known that two of the men managed to bale out but were too low for their parachutes to open properly .
The bodies of two other crewmen, F/O Evans and Sgt Gash have never been found . This makes the main impact point a war grave . Their names are on the Runnymede Memorial . F/O Evans on panel 283 and Sgt Gash on panel 272 .
Whilst of little comfort to the families of the men it can at least be said that they are in one of the most serenely beautiful areas of Snowdonia .
View from the crash site |
The third from the left is F/O Evans it is suspected that all the others ,apart from the instructor on the right, were crewmen aboard NE132
This is a picture I took of a card left at the memorial . A thoughtful addition by someone .
The wreckage with stamps upon it on the right is the same part pictured below with myself holding it (Thanks Ian for the pic) .
The R3 means that it was a Manchester built aircraft part . the others are part numbers .
there is some strong evidence to suggest that the part in question was a part of the regular crew entrance to the aircraft towards the rear of the fuselage . more than that , it has as part of the chunk the ridged threshold with a section of exterior panel and interior strengthening ribs and plates . Its quite nice to be able to put a name to a part of the shattered fragments .
Bullet remains from the burnt out aircraft , no dates were discernible |
I suspect this was something to do with the engine |
Bristol Beaufighter RD210
looking up the mountain toward the gulley which contains much wreckage |
On
the 10th of February 1945 this aircraft flying out of RAF Pershore to
test fuel consumption rates crashed into the rockface of
Aran Fawddwy presumably they had become lost whilst flying through
some bad weather . They were part of No1 Ferry Unit .
The two man crew were killed .
They were
F/O Alan L. Roe Pilot RAAF
W/O Derrick R. Newbury Nav RAF
The
gulley is very steep and has a 'bad step' not far down . We descended
in fairly deep snow which made the going easier at least at the top .
luckily it had recently avalanched and seemed as safe as something like
this can be , with broken snow till it became to thin to matter .
The
bad step was a pig and covered in ice if youre gonna go down be sure of
your abilities ! Its probaly easier to go up in summer!
It
was though great fun ....less fun was climbing back up and over the
mountain to get back to the car ...a basic error of thought ....Aran
Fawddwy is a big mountain and we did it twice the hard way !
This
is the highest bit of wreckage we found , its quite large , there is
probaly more higher but the snow cover prevented us from seeing it .
That is my ice axe giving a bit of scale .
A small section of panel |
Ian looking at a chunk and looking like he has enjoyed the scramble down the gulley |
there are largish chunks all the way down to the water . Although we never did find one of the engines that was reportedly at the waters edge . |
Thats me , rolling down the gulley , nimble like a fox ! It looks sunny but it was just a brief respite from the snow showers that came and went all day . Its amazing where this hobby can take you . |
GRUMMAN AVENGER FN821
On the 3rd February 1944 this
aircraft from 848 Squadron crashed into Trum y Fawnog during a
snowstorm . The aircraft apparently shed a wing before crashing into the
ground at high speed , Doylerush says the aircraft was armed with a
torpedo.
It was on a flight from Gosport to HMS Robin in the Orkney Islands stopping at Machrihanish on the way .
It is also said that there were Four people killed on the flight but some sources only say three were killed .
Whatever the truth is ,only three names are at present known . If any one can bring light to the subject please feel free to add comment with the facts .
It was on a flight from Gosport to HMS Robin in the Orkney Islands stopping at Machrihanish on the way .
It is also said that there were Four people killed on the flight but some sources only say three were killed .
Whatever the truth is ,only three names are at present known . If any one can bring light to the subject please feel free to add comment with the facts .
The site
showed signs that it had been recently dugby someone after loot and
aviation treasures . The very fact that this was a violent aircrash and
there is a distinct possibility of a missing crewmember/passenger this
is near to being grave robbing .
The known crew who were killed were
1st Pilot S/L William Seddon Appleby (24)
2nd Pilot S/L Ernest Hartley Green (22)
Observer S/L Joe Lupton (21)
2nd Pilot S/L Ernest Hartley Green (22)
Observer S/L Joe Lupton (21)
Pilot Appleby was from New Zealand , he died in the cold a long long way from home .
Squadron badge |
A Fleet Airarm Grumman Avenger The emergency door release handle |
VENTURA AE688
On the 18th August 1943 Ventura AE688 of the RAAF 464 Squadron
crashed into Carnedd Daffydd in Snowdonia ,North Wales.
The crew were, as is common place for these incidents, on a nightime navigation exercise .This time though the weather was clement and therefore the reasons for the crash are not clear . The time
of crash was noted by an army traing unit down by Llyn Ogwen (perhaps utilising the pillbox) as 22.38.
All the crew were killed .
Flt Sgt James Alexander Johnston RAAF Pilot
Flt Sgt Eloi Joseph Emile Beaudry RCAF Navigator
F/O Lawrence Fullerton RCAF Wireless Operator / Air gunner
Flt Sgt Archibald Sidney Clegg RCAF Air gunner
Pictured in the main shot is a wing section of the Ventura , beyond
that is an alleged pool of Anson wreckage but some of which clearly
shows the Lockheed manufacturers stamp .The crew were, as is common place for these incidents, on a nightime navigation exercise .This time though the weather was clement and therefore the reasons for the crash are not clear . The time
of crash was noted by an army traing unit down by Llyn Ogwen (perhaps utilising the pillbox) as 22.38.
All the crew were killed .
Flt Sgt James Alexander Johnston RAAF Pilot
Flt Sgt Eloi Joseph Emile Beaudry RCAF Navigator
F/O Lawrence Fullerton RCAF Wireless Operator / Air gunner
Flt Sgt Archibald Sidney Clegg RCAF Air gunner
I am fairly disapointed with todays shots .....somehow i have managed
to make them all blurred .....perhaps the efforts of walking up the
hill made me shake too much .:-)
Above can be seen the impact point . to the left and below are pieces of wreckage some of which carry manufacturers stamps proving they are from this aircraft .
WELLINGTON BJ697
BJ697 took off from Chipping Warden on a night- time cross-country
training exercise on the 26th September 1942 .
Off route presumably lost the aircraft descended through cloud crashing near to Fan Hir on Black Mountain in the Brecon Beacons .
The crew of four all initially survived the impact , one unharmed three badly injured . Subsequently , three days later, the pilot died of his injuries.
The crew were
Off route presumably lost the aircraft descended through cloud crashing near to Fan Hir on Black Mountain in the Brecon Beacons .
The crew of four all initially survived the impact , one unharmed three badly injured . Subsequently , three days later, the pilot died of his injuries.
The crew were
F/Sgt Kenneth S. H. Bird (died of injuries, 29.9.42)
Sgt J. Head (unhurt, helped locals carry the injured off the hill )
Sgt. W.D. Barr Injured
Sgt.W.A.Fairweather Injured
Flight Sergeant Bird is buried in St Leonard's churchyard,
Cliddesden, Hampshire.
I have found mention of a Sgt Troubridge who is alleged to have been
in the crew and was an injured survivor in the crash but have been
unable to substantiate this claim at the present time .
photoshows impact scar now marked by a small cairn |
VAMPIRE VZ106
On the 9th October 1953 flying out of RAF Pembrey this De Havilland
Vampire aircraft was flying as the lead aircraft of a pair of Vampires
. Descending through cloud the pilot must have failed to see the
ground approaching and hit the western slope of Fan Fir on the Black
Mountains in the Brecon Beacons National Park. The pilot of the second
aircraft did see the ground and managed to avoid collision with it , a
fortunate escape for him.
The pilot of the first Aircraft died in the crash. He was
The pilot of the first Aircraft died in the crash. He was
P/O John Raymond Baldock
A huge amount of this aircraft remains at the site . Someone as
collected the majority of it and layed it out into the rough shape of
a Vampire aircraft .
These shots show the location of the main wreckage pool amidst the mountains!
These shots show the location of the main wreckage pool amidst the mountains!
WELLINGTON MF509
On the 20th November 1944 this Wellington bomber crashed on Carrog Goch in the Brecon Beacons, Wales.
Flying out of RAF Wellebourne for a nightime navigation exercise. Shortly before 20.50 hrs the crew sent a radio message asking permission to go below cloud as they were having trouble with the starboard engine. They descended and hit the hill.
All six crewman were killed.
They were
Sgt CHARLES HAMEL Pilot
Sgt JULES ROBERT RENE VILLENEUVE Nav
F/O WILLIAM JOSEPH ALLISON B/A
Sgt JOSEPH PAUL ERNEST BURKE WO/AG
Sgt ARTHUR GROUIX A/G
Sgt GERARD DUSABLON A/G
Probaly this parks best preserved crash site, it is often visited by enthusiasts and casual walkers alike .
Despite feeling in the middle of nowhere once there, it is in fact quite easy to get to without too much hardship..
MARTIN B-26 44-68072
An unusual last journey for this aircraft and crew began in Morrisfield, Florida before continuing on its exotic way through Trinidad ,Brazil , Dakar, Marrakech,before finally landing at RAF St. Mawgan in Cornwall. The last section of the journey was to Burtonwood in Lancashire . They set off from St. Mawgan at 12.38 for the final short leg on the 1st. February 1945 . They were destined to never arrive at Burtonwood .
Low cloud and high winds resulted in them going off course and flying at just over 3000 feet they decided to either land not realising they were off course or to attempt to get a fix by dropping beneath the clouds . Perhaps unaware of the dangers of flying in the UK in cloud they descended straight into the near summit of Y Garn in the Snowdonia mountain range Wales.
The aircraft broke in two on impact the front section hurtling over the ridge and down into Cwm Cywion . One crew member lay dead near the summit the other four remained in the wreckage that went down into the Cwm . Eyewitness accounts of the scene state that they could not have survived the intial impact .
It was another two days before the bodies were recovered from the snow covered mountain.
The crew of 5 were
2ndLt. Kenneth W.Carty Pilot
2ndLt William H. Cardwell Co-pilot
1stLt. Nolen B. Sowell Nav.
Cpl. Jack D. Arnold Rad. Op.
Cpl. Rudolph M . Aguirre Eng.
All were from States across America .
Up to the 60's and 70's much wreckage remained but since then 'enthusiasts ' have removed it .....very little remains now at the summit , we found small pieces of alloy from an engine cylinder casing and a few shards of glass there. More is to be found in the Cwm and on the scree but even then it amounts to very little .
A tragic event , the crewmen never really had a chance to aclimatise themselves to the weather over the UK which claimed a very many lives during the war .
The fragments of aircraft cover quite a large area of mountainside , we scrambled up the scree from the foot to the top looking at what we found on the way .
Ian stood on the initial impact point |
CANBERRA WK129
On the 9th of December 1957 this Canberra B2 whilst working on Radar trails, with the radar station on the near-by mountain 'Drum', crashed at high speed into a mountain ridge just below the summit of Carnedd Llwelwyn . Hitting the North-West facing slope the aircraft travelling at high speed continued over the ridge and disintegrated over and around Ffynnon Llyffant , the highest lake in Wales.
Wreckage can be found over a great distance , there is so much in fact as to be near impossible to miss. The reason for the crash is not known.
Tragically both crew men were killed in the crash . They were
F/Lt William Albert Bell Pilot
F/Lt Kenneth Charles Frederick Shelley Navigator
The shot above shows a plaque made from part of the aircraft attached to one of the engine parts
A large amount of wreckage remains scattered for some distance from the cwm . It can be seen in the stream further down the mountainside too .
BLENHEIM L9039
On the 8th April 1940 flying out of RAF Bicester L9039 crashed into The Carneddau mountain range in Snowdonia North Wales.
The crew of 4 were on a cross country training flight when they broke formation and crashed high on the mountain .the wreckage is strewn from the impact point down to the boggy valley floor below.
The crew who were all killed were
Sgt Alfred Ernest Hall Pilot
Sgt.Fred Graham ObsSgt. Anthony Charles Catton Obs
LAC Geoffrey Halstead JamesW/O+Obs
DOUGLAS BOSTON Z2186
On the 17th October 1942 this aircraft crashed into a grassy slope on
the Carneddau mountain massif in Snowdonia North Wales.
Flying out of the 418 squadron base of RAF Bradwell Bay on a cross country training flight . They entered cloud an hour into the flight and navigated using their compass and radio bearings . Unfortunately they were off course and flying at 3000 feet smashed into the mountain . A few hundred feet higher and they would have cleared it.
Two of the crew died in the crash but one ,the pilot , survived with some major injuries.
Sgt. Mervyn Sims RCAF DFC Pilot
F/Lt. Harold Longworth RCAF Nav
Sgt. Ronald Walker A/G
Flying out of the 418 squadron base of RAF Bradwell Bay on a cross country training flight . They entered cloud an hour into the flight and navigated using their compass and radio bearings . Unfortunately they were off course and flying at 3000 feet smashed into the mountain . A few hundred feet higher and they would have cleared it.
Two of the crew died in the crash but one ,the pilot , survived with some major injuries.
Sgt. Mervyn Sims RCAF DFC Pilot
F/Lt. Harold Longworth RCAF Nav
Sgt. Ronald Walker A/G
Sgt Sims lay close to the aircraft under an improvised shelter of
wreckage for two days before being discovered. He sustained a broken
leg , fractured skull, broken spine and multiple other injuries ....he
also contracted gangrene whilst recovering .
Despite all these injuries he eventually made a full recovery and returned to his squadron where he went on to serve with distinction, completing a full tour, shooting down german aircraft and being awarded the DFC. A hero , who had a very fortunate break in hitting the flattest grassiest part of the Carneddau.
Despite all these injuries he eventually made a full recovery and returned to his squadron where he went on to serve with distinction, completing a full tour, shooting down german aircraft and being awarded the DFC. A hero , who had a very fortunate break in hitting the flattest grassiest part of the Carneddau.
AVRO LINCOLN RF511
On the 15th of March 1950 whilst on a a night navigation this aircraft crashed into the scree below the Black Ladders ridge, just above the source of the stream LLafar.
Witnesses saw the aircrafts navigation lights flying through cloud too low to clear the mountains , a short while later they saw a flash of flame followed by an explosion as the aircraft destructed on the rocks.
All the crew were killed in the crash .
Sq.L.John T. Shore MC AFC Pilot
F/Lt. Cyril A. LindseyNav
EngII Ronald A. Forsdyke DFC F/E
SigIII Harold Henry CharmanR/O
GnrII Godfrey L. Cundy A/G
GnrI Robert H, WoodA/G
The impact point is heavily scarred and evidence of burning is clear . The surrounding area is strewn with small pieces of wreckage . From the crash site and down the stream there are many larger pieces of wreckage including a wing spar that is 25 feet long .
The Avro Lincoln was a develpoment of the more famous Avro Lancaster . It began life as the Lancaster Mk IV but the differences were deemed great enough to require a completely different name .
The prototype first flew in 1944 but the aircraft production times resulted in the Lincoln never being used in WW2. 604 were built in total. 4 still survive to this day.
It could fly higher and faster than a Lancaster , further than a Lancaster and carry a greater payload.
Above shot taken from the scree where the aircraft impacted upon the mountain. |
WELLINGTON DV800
On the 19th of July 1942 this Wellington bomber of No27 Operational
Training Unit crashed whilst on a cross country navigation training
flight into an area of the Carneddau massif called Black Ladders.
It is aptly named , a pathless route out of this dark forbidding valley to the sunlit ridge above.
Above this small cairn of wreckage
a few hundred feet from the ridge itself is the crash site amongst the scree .
Little remains here today , just small fragments of alloy. Nevertheless it is a very dramatic place with the towering cliffs of the Carneddau looming above .
The crew of five were all killed.
It is aptly named , a pathless route out of this dark forbidding valley to the sunlit ridge above.
Above this small cairn of wreckage
a few hundred feet from the ridge itself is the crash site amongst the scree .
Little remains here today , just small fragments of alloy. Nevertheless it is a very dramatic place with the towering cliffs of the Carneddau looming above .
The crew of five were all killed.
Sgt. Eric H. LongbottomPilot
Sgt. Lionel D. Traylen Obs
Sgt. Richard I Bowen Obs
Sgt. Samuel J. WilsonW/O
Sgt. Rupert T. BannisterA/G
Sgt. Lionel D. Traylen Obs
Sgt. Richard I Bowen Obs
Sgt. Samuel J. WilsonW/O
Sgt. Rupert T. BannisterA/G
There is wreckage to be found in the stream below this site but by
some reports it is not from the Wellington but from the Lincoln which
crashed close by here 8 years later.
AVRO ANSON N9855
On the 8th November 1943 this aircraft flying out of RAF Halfpenny
Green on a night navigation exercise crashed close to the top of Pen
yr Ole Wen in Snowdonia ,North Wales . There are few small bits of
wreckage to be found on the steep slopes , and trace evidence at
the impact point itself . Although I only looked over the edge at it
and it didnt seem worth the risk going down for a proper look.
There were five crew members all of which lost their lives. The aircraft crashed into the mountain and caught fire, then dropped onto the plateau below beside the lake.
There were five crew members all of which lost their lives. The aircraft crashed into the mountain and caught fire, then dropped onto the plateau below beside the lake.
Below is an exerpt from a report that can be found on Aviation Safety
Network website. There are flaws the largest one being a picture of
the wing from the ventura crash that is perported to be the Anson (the
anson had wooden wings which by their own report were burnt).
'' During the evening of the 8th November 1943 to crew of five took
off for a night navigation exercise. The route was to have covered
approx. 320 miles passing over of close to the following points Base -
Rhyl - Conwy - Douglas - Maughold Head - Chetton - Base. A short way
into the flight the crew received a QDM from RAF Tilstock of 050
degrees with the location of the aircraft being assumed to be in the
area of 4 miles NW of Shawbury roughly on course for Rhyl. It was next
plotted by the Royal Observer Corps on a route that appeared to be a
direct track from Wrexham to Conwy.
A direct track from the Wrexham area to Conwy would not normally have
taken an aircraft into Snowdonia, but on the night there was a 15 mph
wind blowing from west north west which the Court of Inquiry remarked
on as "if correction for drift was not taken the aircraft would
drift south of the second turning point"
At around 20:30 the ROC observed a fire near Carnedd Dafydd, shortly
before this the aircraft while flying in a north westerly direction
had impacted the upper slopes of Pen yr Ole Wen. The aircraft's
engines had been torn off and rolled almost 1000 feet down the
mountain and the fuel tanks had ruptured with their contents igniting.
The fuselage was destroyed but was not burnt by the fire. ''The crew who were all killed were
Sgt. Ernest Andrew Hoagg RCAF Pilot
Sgt. John Hedgley Lewis RAAF Nav
Sgt. William Gavin RAF BA
Sgt. Leslie John Hill RAF WO/AG
Sgt. Douglas John Roberts RAF WO/AG
There does seem to be a great deal of confusion as to which wreckage
comes from what aircraft here . Definatively the undercarriage
sections at the tarn side came from the Anson and panels painted
yellow also came from the Anson ....but some of the wreckage contained
Lockheeds factory mark so were definately from the Ventura despite
reports that state only the wing was from the Ventura.
This bit could be from a number of aircraft that crashed in the locale . |
MOSQUITO LR412
Propellor and hub with partial reduction gear .
On wednesday the 9th February 1944 Mosquito Mk.IX LR412 of Squadron No. 540 of the RAF, crashed onto the higher slopes of Aran Fawddwy , Snowdonia , SSW of the summit itself .
Both crewmen were killed in the crash .
Pilot- F/O Marek Slonski, PAF
Nav- F/Lt Paul Riches DFC, RAF
They were flying out of RAF Benson and were testing two new flaps .
Both pilot and navigator were very experienced , F/Lt Riches having been awarded the DFC in 1943.
The weather was not too bad ,some cloud but not extensive . The crash does seem to have some mystery surrounding it , the propellor does not appear to have been turning on collision with the ground ,yet a Mosquito could fly comfortably on one engine . Visability was reportedly quite reasonable and both were experienced men .
They are buried together at Chessington , St Mary, cemetery, Surrey.
The aircraft itself had taken part in many operations over enemy territory.
540 Squadron operated successfully has a photo -reconnaissance unit . Aircraft of this unit carried no squadron markings so has not to be easily identified if shot down over enemy territory
Bristol Blenheim L4873
On wednesday the 9th February 1944 Mosquito Mk.IX LR412 of Squadron No. 540 of the RAF, crashed onto the higher slopes of Aran Fawddwy , Snowdonia , SSW of the summit itself .
Both crewmen were killed in the crash .
Pilot- F/O Marek Slonski, PAF
Nav- F/Lt Paul Riches DFC, RAF
They were flying out of RAF Benson and were testing two new flaps .
Both pilot and navigator were very experienced , F/Lt Riches having been awarded the DFC in 1943.
The weather was not too bad ,some cloud but not extensive . The crash does seem to have some mystery surrounding it , the propellor does not appear to have been turning on collision with the ground ,yet a Mosquito could fly comfortably on one engine . Visability was reportedly quite reasonable and both were experienced men .
They are buried together at Chessington , St Mary, cemetery, Surrey.
The aircraft itself had taken part in many operations over enemy territory.
540 Squadron operated successfully has a photo -reconnaissance unit . Aircraft of this unit carried no squadron markings so has not to be easily identified if shot down over enemy territory
Bristol Blenheim L4873
wing spar |
impact crater |
On the 23rd March 1940 Bristol
Blenheim L4873 flying out of RAF Upwood on a formation flying exercise
with two other Blenheims became lost in cloud .
The two other aircraft found clear sky and returned to base but the pilot and crew of L4873 became increasingly disorientated in the cloud .
Eventually, it is presumed, they decided to try and descend under the cloud cover to try and get a fix on thier position.
Instead of finding the cloud base they found the shoulder of Foel Wen in the Berwyn Mountains ,North Wales. The aircraft was utterly destroyed on collision with the mountain.
A teardrop shaped impact crater can still be clearly seen , its shape indicative of the angle of descent .
A substantial amount of still painted (in part) aircraft fragments can be seen amongst the deep grass . Fuselage parts showing signs of impact crumpling , wing sections less damaged but now heavily corroded.
The three man crew were all killed
The two other aircraft found clear sky and returned to base but the pilot and crew of L4873 became increasingly disorientated in the cloud .
Eventually, it is presumed, they decided to try and descend under the cloud cover to try and get a fix on thier position.
Instead of finding the cloud base they found the shoulder of Foel Wen in the Berwyn Mountains ,North Wales. The aircraft was utterly destroyed on collision with the mountain.
A teardrop shaped impact crater can still be clearly seen , its shape indicative of the angle of descent .
A substantial amount of still painted (in part) aircraft fragments can be seen amongst the deep grass . Fuselage parts showing signs of impact crumpling , wing sections less damaged but now heavily corroded.
The three man crew were all killed
Sgt. Maurice Charles Cotterell Pilot
Sgt Ronald Jesse Harbour Observer
AC2 Kenneth Charles Winterton WO+AG
Sgt Ronald Jesse Harbour Observer
AC2 Kenneth Charles Winterton WO+AG
Bristol Blenhiem IV in Finnish colours |
The Wales photos are superb, some great debris among stunning landscapes. Good to take a trip back through some of those places.... That Canberra site remains one of the most beautful places I've been. Almost reluctant to return because it won't be quite the same as it was the day we visited.
ReplyDeleteNice work, Paul! Only just found your blog after following a link on Ian's.
ReplyDeleteSome stunning photography and interesting sites here. Do you have any knowledge of Wellington Z1172 which crashed in Trearddur Bay, Anglesey killing the crew of six Polish airmen?
ReplyDeleteGreat article. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteApproximately 6 years ago I was making my way up the scree slopes west of Glyder Fawr and started a conversation with an elderly gentleman. It turned out he was a bother of one of the aircrew of AVRO ANSON N9855. He was recovering from cancer and was hoping to make one last walk up to Cwm Lloer to place national flags at the crash site.
ReplyDeleteBeen to many of those sites years back...unfortunately wouldn't make it now.I nearly lost my life doing what I loved.....was very lucky.
ReplyDeleteBeautiful photography, and great info. Thank You for the effort. WE WILL REMEMBER THEM.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely fantastic, the pictures are stunning. You don't always realise what is on your doorstep such amazing history. If you are living near or visiting Carmarthenshire it is well worth checking out the book Carmarthenshire Air Crashes the pictures aren't as good as yours but the accounts of the crashes are fascinating.
ReplyDeleteI saw the wreckage of the Anson in Cwm Lloer when I was on a mountaineering course at Ogwen Cottage in the 60's. I remember seeing part of the under carriage with the chrome plating still in excellent condition but then it was only 20 odd years after the war, I shouldn't think it's like that now. Ron James who was the head climber/teacher (?) at Ogwen Cottage said there was a logbook there with records of the crash sites.
ReplyDeleteI am trying to find information of a vampire jet crash that happened in North Wales near Abergele witnessed by myself and several of service men stationed at Kinmel camp either 1965 /67 can you help,
ReplyDeleteJohn Trevor Williams
1/10/1949 De Havilland Tiger Moth crashed near Llanbedr. My grandfather was killed in this. Any information you have would be appreciated
ReplyDeleteFascinating information and great photos. I'm interested in more detail on the Blenheim L9039, which is just listed as crashing in the Carneddau. I live in the area and the mountain the background of one shot looks like Pen Llithrig Y Wrach, which might make the crash site the back of Cefn Cyfarwydd.
ReplyDeleteAt the start of the page there's a word that you typed as probaly - it is should be as this - probably - on your De Havilland Vampire blog there is a big spelling mistake check all of your work before upload it to this site, I do agree with the others with the photos
ReplyDeleteMy grandfather during the war worked as a salvager/engineer for the RAF. After the bodies/parts were collected then my grandad and the team would go in and salvage weapons and other parts that could be re-used. I still have two old penny coins from the Wellington bomber that crashed on Carrog Goch in the Brecon Beacons, Wales that he collected. They are bent and burnt. He also kept an excape axe and made letter openers from the fuselage and canopy of other aircraft crashes. Not sure if they are bad luck and what to do with them. Bill my dad said was mortified when he lifted some part of the aircraft and one of the Canadians crews testicles was under it that was missed.
ReplyDeleteLast time I walked Aran Fawddwy ( late summer 2018 ) I found the crash site of the Mosquito, have been there severl times previously. On this occasion.I found the panels and bits of structure but no propellor. It could be that I missed it but I did search all nearby rocks. Shame if it had been taken though. Will have a look next time I go.
ReplyDeleteIt’s still there
DeleteNo luck finding the propellor today ( March 19th 2024 ). The other parts are all there. Can't recall where it is in relation to the framework. The photo of it in the snow is hard to relate to.
DeleteAccording to a reporter in Trail mag, who went there in 2022 she too said it has gone. Quite sad that someone would take this, totally disrespectful. Also...how would you carry something like that down a mountain??
DeleteHappy to say the prop is still there hiding away amongst a pile of rocks. Long may it remain so too. May 2024.
DeleteGreat photos and description of crash sites,I am trying to find out about a plane that crashed in I Think in 1940 half a mile north of Ferndale in the Rhondda Valley at The
ReplyDeleteParade where I lived at the time any Ideas greatly received. Grant
Is there any grid references to these sites please as I have the book on the Brecon ones would like to visit as many as possible thanks
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